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		<title>Tony: &quot;good-natured&quot; for consistency</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;good-natured&amp;quot; for consistency&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Does [[Messer]] have a mother? If so, then find out whether the poor old woman is well. Oh, how often I&amp;#039;ve prayed for her the last few days. I&amp;#039;ve just finished correcting [[Messer]]&amp;#039;s work. My dear chap, when I wrote to you 3 weeks ago with my critical remarks about his piano reduction, how far I was from a genuine assessment of this work! It was only when I started the corrections that I realised. [[Alyosha]] will be bringing you all my work in a few days, including [[Messer]]&amp;#039;s piano reduction. You will see that only the first page remains intact (it is done very well, because Mr [[Messer]] copied this passage from my arrangement of the introduction, where it&amp;#039;s literally repeated) — everything else had to be redone down to the tiniest detail. No! I could never have imagined such &amp;#039;&amp;#039;absolute mediocrity, such phenomenal incomprehension and stupidity&amp;#039;&amp;#039;! You will also be receiving the arrangement of the 3rd act, done by [[Kotek]], and will see what a musician&amp;#039;s work means ... the work of a handsome, good natured, yet infinitely talented, well-fed German calf. I should really not wish to offend [[Messer]], who has always given me the impression of a good-natured fellow, and whose attentions to &amp;quot;[[Onegin]]&amp;quot; (represented by proofs that were completely incomprehensible to me) touched me.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Does [[Messer]] have a mother? If so, then find out whether the poor old woman is well. Oh, how often I&amp;#039;ve prayed for her the last few days. I&amp;#039;ve just finished correcting [[Messer]]&amp;#039;s work. My dear chap, when I wrote to you 3 weeks ago with my critical remarks about his piano reduction, how far I was from a genuine assessment of this work! It was only when I started the corrections that I realised. [[Alyosha]] will be bringing you all my work in a few days, including [[Messer]]&amp;#039;s piano reduction. You will see that only the first page remains intact (it is done very well, because Mr [[Messer]] copied this passage from my arrangement of the introduction, where it&amp;#039;s literally repeated) — everything else had to be redone down to the tiniest detail. No! I could never have imagined such &amp;#039;&amp;#039;absolute mediocrity, such phenomenal incomprehension and stupidity&amp;#039;&amp;#039;! You will also be receiving the arrangement of the 3rd act, done by [[Kotek]], and will see what a musician&amp;#039;s work means ... the work of a handsome, good&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;-&lt;/ins&gt;natured, yet infinitely talented, well-fed German calf. I should really not wish to offend [[Messer]], who has always given me the impression of a good-natured fellow, and whose attentions to &amp;quot;[[Onegin]]&amp;quot; (represented by proofs that were completely incomprehensible to me) touched me.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;But you must agree, my dear chap, that it&amp;#039;s sad to think of this when considering how my nerves were tasked by &amp;#039;&amp;#039;one part of the first act&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, with the rest twice as complex and lengthy, and the 2nd act being twice as long and difficult as the first. Well, in short, I want to ask if you can politely wrest from him everything that isn&amp;#039;t ready? If so, then kindly send the full score forthwith to [[Kotek]], who is already in [[Berlin]] (Linkstrasse, № 18, Il Treppe, Herrn Iosef Kotek).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;But you must agree, my dear chap, that it&amp;#039;s sad to think of this when considering how my nerves were tasked by &amp;#039;&amp;#039;one part of the first act&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, with the rest twice as complex and lengthy, and the 2nd act being twice as long and difficult as the first. Well, in short, I want to ask if you can politely wrest from him everything that isn&amp;#039;t ready? If so, then kindly send the full score forthwith to [[Kotek]], who is already in [[Berlin]] (Linkstrasse, № 18, Il Treppe, Herrn Iosef Kotek).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Tony</name></author>
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		<title>Brett: 1 revision imported</title>
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		<updated>2022-07-12T12:23:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;1 revision imported&lt;/p&gt;
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		<author><name>Brett</name></author>
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		<title>Brett at 13:43, 17 December 2020</title>
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		<updated>2020-12-17T13:43:21Z</updated>

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|Date=27 August/8 September 1879&lt;br /&gt;
|To=[[Pyotr Jurgenson]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Place=[[Simaki]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Language=Russian&lt;br /&gt;
|Autograph=[[Klin]] (Russia): {{RUS-KLč}} (a{{sup|3}}, No. 2262)&lt;br /&gt;
|Publication={{bib|1901/24|Жизнь Петра Ильича Чайковского ; том 2}} (1901), p. 307–308 (abridged)&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;{{bib|1938/40|П. И. Чайковский. Переписка с П. И. Юргенсоном ; том 1}} (1938), p. 111–112&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;{{bib|1963/6|П. И. Чайковский. Полное собрание сочинений ; том VIII}} (1963), p. 341–342&lt;br /&gt;
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==Text and Translation==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Lettertext&lt;br /&gt;
|Language=Russian&lt;br /&gt;
|Translator=Brett Langston&lt;br /&gt;
|Original text={{right|27 авг[уста]}}&lt;br /&gt;
Есть у Мессера мать? Если есть, то узнай, здорова ли бедная старуха? О, как она часто поминалась в последние дни. Я только что кончил исправление Мессеровской работы.  Душа моя, когда я тебе писал 3 недели тому назад мои критические замечания о его клавираусцуге, то как далёк я был от настоящей оценки этого труда! Только взявшись за исправление, я уразумел, что это такое. Алёша на днях привезёт тебе все мои работы, а вместе с ними и Мессеровский клавираусцуг. Ты увидишь, что только первая страница осталась цела (она сделана очень хорошо, ибо г. Мессер списал это место на моего переложения интродукции, где оно встречается в буквальном повторении), — все остальное пришлось переделывать до мельчайших подробностей. Нет! Никогда я не мог себе представить такой &amp;#039;&amp;#039;абсолютной бездарности, такого феноменального непонимания и тупости&amp;#039;&amp;#039;! Ты получишь также и переложение 3-го действия, сделанное Котеком, и увидишь, что значит работа музыканта и работа ... красивого, добродушного, но безгранично бесталанного, упитанного немецкого телёнка. Мне очень бы не хотелось обижать Мессера, который всегда производил на меня впечатление добродушного малого и которого внимание к «Онегину» (проявившееся в совершенно непостижимой для меня корректуре) меня трогает.&lt;br /&gt;
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Но согласись, душа моя, что грустно иметь в виду ту же раздражающую нервы работу, которую я себе задал по поводу &amp;#039;&amp;#039;одной части первого действия&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, но только ещё втрое более сложную и длинную, ибо 2-е действие вдвое больше и вдвое труднее первого. Ну одним словом, я хочу тебя просить, нельзя и учтивым образом отнять от него все, что не готово? Если да, то потрудись тотчас же отослать партитуру в Берлин к Котеку, который уже там (Linkstrasse, № 18, Il Treppe, Herrn Iosef Kotek).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Котек&amp;#039;&amp;#039; имеет то же свойство, что я — делать скоро и (это уж его свойство) — хорошо. Нельзя ли сказать Мессеру, что я теперь освободился и хочу для скорости сам сделать то, что он не успел? Готовую же его работу тоже потрудись отослать к &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Котеку&amp;#039;&amp;#039;. Ну, словом, если тебе удастся вырвать из копыт (хотел сказать когтей, но вспомнил, что Мессер телёнок) Мессера работу, то потрудись послать Котеку: 1) уже готовую работу Мессера для переправки, которую он охотно берет на себя, 2) партитуру 2[-го] действия. Начало 1-го действия, мной ещё не просмотренное, я исправлю сам. Я попаду в Москву не ранее половины сентября.&lt;br /&gt;
{{right|Твой П. Чайковский}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|Translated text={{right|27 August}}&lt;br /&gt;
Does [[Messer]] have a mother? If so, then find out whether the poor old woman is well. Oh, how often I&amp;#039;ve prayed for her the last few days. I&amp;#039;ve just finished correcting [[Messer]]&amp;#039;s work. My dear chap, when I wrote to you 3 weeks ago with my critical remarks about his piano reduction, how far I was from a genuine assessment of this work! It was only when I started the corrections that I realised. [[Alyosha]] will be bringing you all my work in a few days, including [[Messer]]&amp;#039;s piano reduction. You will see that only the first page remains intact (it is done very well, because Mr [[Messer]] copied this passage from my arrangement of the introduction, where it&amp;#039;s literally repeated) — everything else had to be redone down to the tiniest detail. No! I could never have imagined such &amp;#039;&amp;#039;absolute mediocrity, such phenomenal incomprehension and stupidity&amp;#039;&amp;#039;! You will also be receiving the arrangement of the 3rd act, done by [[Kotek]], and will see what a musician&amp;#039;s work means ... the work of a handsome, good natured, yet infinitely talented, well-fed German calf. I should really not wish to offend [[Messer]], who has always given me the impression of a good-natured fellow, and whose attentions to &amp;quot;[[Onegin]]&amp;quot; (represented by proofs that were completely incomprehensible to me) touched me. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But you must agree, my dear chap, that it&amp;#039;s sad to think of this when considering how my nerves were tasked by &amp;#039;&amp;#039;one part of the first act&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, with the rest twice as complex and lengthy, and the 2nd act being twice as long and difficult as the first. Well, in short, I want to ask if you can politely wrest from him everything that isn&amp;#039;t ready? If so, then kindly send the full score forthwith to [[Kotek]], who is already in [[Berlin]] (Linkstrasse, № 18, Il Treppe, Herrn Iosef Kotek).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Kotek]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039; has the same virtue as myself — to work quickly, and (this is his virtue) — well. Is it possible to tell [[Messer]] that I now find myself free, and for speed I want to do myself what he hasn&amp;#039;t been able to? Kindly send his finished work to &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Kotek]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039; too. Well, in short, if you managed to wrest [[Messer]]&amp;#039;s work from his hooves (I wanted to say claws, but remembered that [[Messer]] is a calf), then kindly send to [[Kotek]]: 1) [[Messer]]&amp;#039;s already completed work, for correction, which he will gladly take upon himself, 2) the full score of the 2nd act. The start of the 1st act, which I still haven&amp;#039;t looked at, I will correct myself. I won&amp;#039;t make it to [[Moscow]] before the middle of September. &lt;br /&gt;
{{right|Yours P. Tchaikovsky}}&lt;br /&gt;
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